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	<description>A Discussion of Workers Cooperatives and Building the New Economy</description>
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		<title>Comment on The Next Four Years by John McNamara</title>
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		<dc:creator>John McNamara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Apr 2013 17:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are a couple of different films out there. Shift Change is the newest one. Made in America came out in 2004. There is a much older one from the 1990&#039;s, I think, that focuses on Rainbow Grocery, Alvarado Bakery, and Arizmendi Bakery. I forget the name of it, but have mentioned it is a blog entry.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are a couple of different films out there. Shift Change is the newest one. Made in America came out in 2004. There is a much older one from the 1990&#8242;s, I think, that focuses on Rainbow Grocery, Alvarado Bakery, and Arizmendi Bakery. I forget the name of it, but have mentioned it is a blog entry.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Next Four Years by Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2013 05:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just curious if there any good, short films on Worker Co-ops that could be broadcast on local access channels?  Also, commercials these days can be very reasonable cost wise an a &#039;general&quot; Co-op commercial would do alot for local market exposure.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just curious if there any good, short films on Worker Co-ops that could be broadcast on local access channels?  Also, commercials these days can be very reasonable cost wise an a &#8216;general&#8221; Co-op commercial would do alot for local market exposure.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is It Time for Neo-Distributism? by P2P Foundation &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Building a Stakeholder Society as an Alternative to the Market and the State</title>
		<link>http://www.cooperativeconsult.com/blog/?p=393&#038;cpage=1#comment-1812</link>
		<dc:creator>P2P Foundation &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Building a Stakeholder Society as an Alternative to the Market and the State</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2013 08:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on A new year, and a new start by John McNamara</title>
		<link>http://www.cooperativeconsult.com/blog/?p=752&#038;cpage=1#comment-1765</link>
		<dc:creator>John McNamara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2013 21:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Welcome Aboard! I just sent you a few emails for the autho. I look forward to the posts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome Aboard! I just sent you a few emails for the autho. I look forward to the posts.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A new year, and a new start by Sushil</title>
		<link>http://www.cooperativeconsult.com/blog/?p=752&#038;cpage=1#comment-1764</link>
		<dc:creator>Sushil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2013 21:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi John, We&#039;d love to cross-post a periodic column from our blog (http://greencollarcommunities.wordpress.com/) to yours. I&#039;m running a community economic development legal clinic at the East Bay Community Law Center, in Berkeley. We provide legal assistance for worker coop startups in the East Bay. 

All best!
Sushil]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi John, We&#8217;d love to cross-post a periodic column from our blog (<a href="http://greencollarcommunities.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">http://greencollarcommunities.wordpress.com/</a>) to yours. I&#8217;m running a community economic development legal clinic at the East Bay Community Law Center, in Berkeley. We provide legal assistance for worker coop startups in the East Bay. </p>
<p>All best!<br />
Sushil</p>
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		<title>Comment on A new year, and a new start by boot search</title>
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		<dc:creator>boot search</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2013 08:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on The Worker&#8217;s Cooperative That Should&#8217;ve Been In Michael Moore&#8217;s Movie by The Seeds of Hope, for a new Epoch, a new Beginning - e-gnomi.com - η γνώμη σου μετράει</title>
		<link>http://www.cooperativeconsult.com/blog/?p=185&#038;cpage=1#comment-1748</link>
		<dc:creator>The Seeds of Hope, for a new Epoch, a new Beginning - e-gnomi.com - η γνώμη σου μετράει</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2012 17:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] creating new owners almost immediately, as long-time member Fred Schepartz explained to The Workers&#8217; Paradise: “All employees who pass probation are members of Union Cab Cooperative. Period. [...] There is [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] creating new owners almost immediately, as long-time member Fred Schepartz explained to The Workers&#8217; Paradise: “All employees who pass probation are members of Union Cab Cooperative. Period. [...] There is [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wisconsin Co-operators Need to Vote on April 5th by Brian P. Rabbit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian P. Rabbit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2012 20:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Thanks for reading!&quot; Hey, thanks for blogging! :-)

&quot;That speech is called advertising and advertising does get restricted.&quot; Commercial advertising gets restricted, yes, subject to intermediate scrutiny. Political advertising, conversely, is subject to far fewer judicial/legal restraints. As a general rule, restrictions on political speech, regardless of the &quot;Speaker&quot; must withstand a strict scrutiny analysis or be deemed invalid.

The case of which You are thinking is probably Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific Railroad, 118 U.S. 394 (1886), in which the Reporter noted in the headnote to the opinion the Chief Justice began oral argument by stating, &quot;The court does not wish to hear argument on the question whether the provision in the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution, which forbids a State to deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws, applies to these corporations. We are all of the opinion that it does.&quot; However, the headnote is not part of the Court&#039;s opinion and thus not precedent. I think what the court was going for in Citizens United was something along these lines: People (Humans) have a right to engage in political speech generally unencumbered by the law; when They join Together in a group, They retain that right; calling that group a &quot;corporation&quot; does not remove that right anymore than calling it a &quot;club&quot;, &quot;league&quot;, &quot;partnership&quot;, &quot;co-operative&quot;, or &quot;qwijibo&quot;. However, I readily admit I am a little less versed in the logic of the Individual Justices than I would like to be.

If I may muse for a moment, I am wondering, to diminish chances of corrupting influences, should We not demand sitting Members of the congress to enact tough ethics rules prohibiting Them from accepting any political donations of any kind unless both chamber are in recess? Admittedly, such a restriction won&#039;t do much for so-called &quot;outside expenditures&quot;, though. To diminish the influence of that class of funds, We would probably need to increase the size of the House and/or the Senate. Hmm, come to think of it, such a move might be good in general. I often hear People complain how Members of the congress do not &quot;listen to Their Constituents&quot;. More Members, at least in the House, would make districts smaller and increase communication efficiency. LOL, why do I have this feeling some Mathematician somewhere has already crafted an equation for the ideal number of Representatives and wrote it down in a paper Nobody has read?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Thanks for reading!&#8221; Hey, thanks for blogging! <img src='http://www.cooperativeconsult.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8220;That speech is called advertising and advertising does get restricted.&#8221; Commercial advertising gets restricted, yes, subject to intermediate scrutiny. Political advertising, conversely, is subject to far fewer judicial/legal restraints. As a general rule, restrictions on political speech, regardless of the &#8220;Speaker&#8221; must withstand a strict scrutiny analysis or be deemed invalid.</p>
<p>The case of which You are thinking is probably Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific Railroad, 118 U.S. 394 (1886), in which the Reporter noted in the headnote to the opinion the Chief Justice began oral argument by stating, &#8220;The court does not wish to hear argument on the question whether the provision in the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution, which forbids a State to deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws, applies to these corporations. We are all of the opinion that it does.&#8221; However, the headnote is not part of the Court&#8217;s opinion and thus not precedent. I think what the court was going for in Citizens United was something along these lines: People (Humans) have a right to engage in political speech generally unencumbered by the law; when They join Together in a group, They retain that right; calling that group a &#8220;corporation&#8221; does not remove that right anymore than calling it a &#8220;club&#8221;, &#8220;league&#8221;, &#8220;partnership&#8221;, &#8220;co-operative&#8221;, or &#8220;qwijibo&#8221;. However, I readily admit I am a little less versed in the logic of the Individual Justices than I would like to be.</p>
<p>If I may muse for a moment, I am wondering, to diminish chances of corrupting influences, should We not demand sitting Members of the congress to enact tough ethics rules prohibiting Them from accepting any political donations of any kind unless both chamber are in recess? Admittedly, such a restriction won&#8217;t do much for so-called &#8220;outside expenditures&#8221;, though. To diminish the influence of that class of funds, We would probably need to increase the size of the House and/or the Senate. Hmm, come to think of it, such a move might be good in general. I often hear People complain how Members of the congress do not &#8220;listen to Their Constituents&#8221;. More Members, at least in the House, would make districts smaller and increase communication efficiency. LOL, why do I have this feeling some Mathematician somewhere has already crafted an equation for the ideal number of Representatives and wrote it down in a paper Nobody has read?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wisconsin Co-operators Need to Vote on April 5th by John McNamara</title>
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		<dc:creator>John McNamara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2012 19:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for reading! I have to start writing on a regular basis again (and will once I get three papers under control). I get the nuance of what you are saying, there is a difference in the speech from a corporation. That speech is called advertising and advertising does get restricted. This opinion essentially argued that corp and human speech are the same at least in the political arena. Okay. I do believe that there is an 1890&#039;s ruling which is credited with the granting of legal personhood to corporations. I think that the documentary, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0379225/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Corporation&lt;/a&gt; discusses this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for reading! I have to start writing on a regular basis again (and will once I get three papers under control). I get the nuance of what you are saying, there is a difference in the speech from a corporation. That speech is called advertising and advertising does get restricted. This opinion essentially argued that corp and human speech are the same at least in the political arena. Okay. I do believe that there is an 1890&#8242;s ruling which is credited with the granting of legal personhood to corporations. I think that the documentary, <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0379225/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">The Corporation</a> discusses this.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wisconsin Co-operators Need to Vote on April 5th by Brian P. Rabbit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian P. Rabbit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2012 18:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi, I&#039;ve stumbled across this site in search for information about co-ops. I certainly like the detail You provide. *two*thumbs*up* I just have one tiny point of contention. It regards the statement above on Citizens United. The line reads, &quot;The third is a county-wide referendum seeking to amend the US Constitution to correct the mistake of Citizens United. Corporations, like Co-operatives, are not people. Our government must be based on the rule of humans, not capital.&quot; Pretty good. Pretty good. However, the statement seems, do correct Me if I am wrong, based on the presumption the CU case equated corporations with People. It did not. The opinion can be found here: http://www.oyez.org/cases/2000-2009/2008/2008_08_205#opinion. As You can see (or hear if You partake of the streaming aspect), while the court maintains political speech is indispensable to a democracy, which is no less true because the speech comes from a corporation, the court made no determination equating corporations with People. It took Me a while to realize this and I am an avid Follower of SCOTUS actions; so, not knowing how closely You follow the court, if You have been unaware until this point in time of this detail of Citizens United I might not be surprised. Other than this one point, I am really enjoying this blog, though! :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I&#8217;ve stumbled across this site in search for information about co-ops. I certainly like the detail You provide. *two*thumbs*up* I just have one tiny point of contention. It regards the statement above on Citizens United. The line reads, &#8220;The third is a county-wide referendum seeking to amend the US Constitution to correct the mistake of Citizens United. Corporations, like Co-operatives, are not people. Our government must be based on the rule of humans, not capital.&#8221; Pretty good. Pretty good. However, the statement seems, do correct Me if I am wrong, based on the presumption the CU case equated corporations with People. It did not. The opinion can be found here: <a href="http://www.oyez.org/cases/2000-2009/2008/2008_08_205#opinion" rel="nofollow">http://www.oyez.org/cases/2000-2009/2008/2008_08_205#opinion</a>. As You can see (or hear if You partake of the streaming aspect), while the court maintains political speech is indispensable to a democracy, which is no less true because the speech comes from a corporation, the court made no determination equating corporations with People. It took Me a while to realize this and I am an avid Follower of SCOTUS actions; so, not knowing how closely You follow the court, if You have been unaware until this point in time of this detail of Citizens United I might not be surprised. Other than this one point, I am really enjoying this blog, though! <img src='http://www.cooperativeconsult.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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